[Cuis] A formal presentation to the list

[Frank Shearar]

On 11 December 2013 11:16, Ignacio Matías Sniechowski
<0800nacho at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you, all of you for your warm welcome.
> I totally agree with you. Simplicity is nothing but one side of the coin,
> being the other code quality. It's impossible to achieve a certain degree of
> simplicity and elegance without good code quality.
> Once thing I'm curious is about the evolution of Cuis, how was developed. In
> squeak.org says that it's a fork of Squeak. But closely inspecting Cuis, it
> dawn on me that may be it was build from scratch. It seems that unloading,
> correcting, fixing and shrinking Cuis is much more time consuming than
> -using Squeak as a guide- build from zero.
> I've taken a look at Squeak 1.3 or 1.2 and it was much simpler than let's
> say 3.8 or 4.4 which is impossible to follow.

Just for the record, I hope that 4.5 will be the start of a long trend
of "getting better". We already started cleaning up messes in 4.4, and
4.5 has made a good start in addressing the inter-package complexities
(that Pharo is now starting to get to grips with too).

frank

> Pharo has lots of classes too,
> but everything is very good organized and once you know what is the purpose
> of package X, it's easy to concentrate on those that matter for the project
> being developed. Though IMHO I really prefer "extreme modularity" just the
> kernel.

This kind of "extreme modularity" is a goal both of the Pharo and the
Squeak communities. It's my hope that not too long from now, the
differences between Squeak, Pharo and Cuis will be much less, and that
we'll see applications and libraries freely moving between the various
communities.

frank

> If you need something more, then just loaded, only those things
> needed for a project.
> Is there some guide or tutorial on morphic on Cuis?
> Thanks in advance
> Nacho
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> Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA
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> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Casey Ransberger <casey.obrien.r at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> Good to meet you! I'm in Seattle, Washington in the USA. Not terribly far
>> from Ken as it happens.
>>
>> I did the main work around visual themes in Cuis, the original taskbar
>> (which has since been replaced with something much nicer) and an odd little
>> thing for moving assets in and out of the image called ContentPack. I also
>> did some work to update our icons.
>>
>> In the future I look forward to contributing to the Morphic 3 effort, and
>> to help continue Juan's earlier work with mobile devices.
>>
>> I was the second committer to Cuis (after Juan) and I must say that it's
>> been a real joy to watch the community grow.
>>
>> It's a wonderful system. I think probably the strongest evidence that
>> Juan's approach has been successful is that we were able to actually add
>> features at the same time as removing classes and methods. Having a smaller,
>> more manageable core opens up possibilities like this.
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>> Another part of this which is important to me is the idea that "the code
>> is the curriculum," that the best way to make a complex system easy to
>> understand and learn is to include only the highest quality code we can
>> imagine, and avoid unnecessary complexity (or "complication") wherever
>> possible.
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>> Glad to have you on the list, Ignacio!
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>> --Casey
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>> > On Dec 7, 2013, at 5:53 AM, nacho <0800nacho at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > My name is Ignacio (aka "nacho"). I'm a smalltalker apprentice, I live
>> > in
>> > Buenos Aires, Argentina.
>> > I came to Cuis from Squeak's homepage.
>> > Instantly get identified with Juan's observations, thoughts and
>> > reflections.
>> > It was like reading what I expect from a simple, powerful and personal
>> > development system.
>> > Cuis is amazing. Maybe it does not have Seaside, Roassal, Athens, etc.
>> > But
>> > that simplicity of only one person knowing all the aspects of the system
>> > is
>> > invaluable.
>> > I work in a company and most of the software I need it's developed by
>> > me, so
>> > knowing the system deep it's something very important for me. And build
>> > from
>> > there.
>> > Thanks Juan for developing such a wonderful Smalltalk environment.
>> > Best regards
>> > Nacho
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>> >
>> > -----
>> > Nacho
>> > Smalltalker apprentice.
>> > Buenos Aires, Argentina.
>> > --
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