[Cuis] Has anyone taken a look at porting Seaside yet?
Juan Vuletich
juan at jvuletich.org
Tue Oct 1 06:47:04 CDT 2013
Hi Folks,
I applaud and support this initiative. However, this is a bit outside my
expertise, and I can't spare a significant amount of time for it. Count
me as supporter. I do promise to help. And (as usual) I'm open to
thinking together which incompatibilities can be better fixed by adding
or modifying some protocol in Cuis, vs. including them in a
compatibility layer.
Cheers,
Juan Vuletich
On 9/30/2013 10:56 PM, Casey Ransberger wrote:
> I should repeat myself on this: don't try to fork it. Build a layer of
> indirection, a compatibility layer that maps what Seaside (and its
> dependencies) need to what Cuis has.
>
> Andreas put me onto this pattern around the time he released his
> Traits implementation...
>
> http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?FacadePattern
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Casey Ransberger
> <casey.obrien.r at gmail.com <mailto:casey.obrien.r at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Juan and I have talked about it before. I looked at it. We'd love
> to have Seaside working in Cuis, but it's *not* a small job. It's
> a real *big* job.
>
> But that was back when there were only two of us. If the group
> here really pulled together, we might be able to get it done in a
> reasonable amount of time.
>
> One resource that could help (and also be greatly expanded in the
> process) is the Pharo compatibility layer that German has been
> tinkering with.
>
> If I was going to attack the problem of supporting Seaside, I'd
> start with getting Sport and Grease working reliably, and bake
> whatever was needed to make these two happy into German's compat
> layer. Since Seaside depends on these two packages, we're going to
> have to make them work anyway.
>
> I'd advise against attempting to fork it. You may as well fork a
> white whale. You'll end up chasing the thing around for the rest
> of your life:)
>
> Is anyone here active on the Seaside list? We'd almost certainly
> need *someone* to be there (and probably at least one head paying
> attention to the Pharo list) in order to succeed.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Germán Arduino
> <garduino at gmail.com <mailto:garduino at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Phil:
>
> I not evaluated a Seaside port precisely because of it's size
> and complexity.
>
> Indeed would be a nice port to have, but a lot of work to
> maintain I think.
>
> Currently we have Aida and I was starting with Iliad and
> HttpView2, but both are only work in progress by now.
>
> Cheeers.
>
>
>
> 2013/9/30 Phil (list) <pbpublist at gmail.com
> <mailto:pbpublist at gmail.com>>
>
> I've been thinking that it sure would be nice to have
> Seaside running on Cuis but this is a big enough effort
> that I'd check in and see if anyone has already looked at
> and/or started on this?
>
> Thanks,
> Phil
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