[Cuis] Compatibility packages folder? (was Re: isXXX methods? (was Re: 4 additions to core?))

H. Hirzel hannes.hirzel at gmail.com
Thu May 14 12:45:24 CDT 2015


Yes, a folder

   Packages_compatibility

as a sibling to

   Packages

https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev

would be fine. There might be several compatibility packages.

On 5/14/15, David Graham <dgraham at unthinkable.org> wrote:
> Could we remove SqueakCompatability from the Core-Packages.pck.st?  That way
> we can ensure that our core packages follow the Cuis philosophy.
>
>
>> On May 14, 2015, at 9:07 AM, Juan Vuletich <juan at jvuletich.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 5/14/2015 5:52 AM, H. Hirzel wrote:
>>> Thank you for the clarification, Juan.
>>>
>>> I am aiming at semi-automated porting, i.e. to come up with a recipe
>>> of activities to do the port https://github.com/hhzl/Cuis-NeoCSV.
>>>
>>> I want to redo it, as Sven has posted a new version last week end.
>>>
>>> Replacing
>>>
>>>      isCharacter
>>>
>>> with
>>>
>>>     is: Character
>>>
>>> is fine.
>>
>> But in Cuis it would be '$a class == Character' or '$a isKindOf:
>> Character'. A reasonable alternative is to simply add #isCharacter to
>> SqueakCompatibility.pck.st.
>>
>>> Then I'd like to apply the same recipe to his NeoJSON package.
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> Hannes
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Juan Vuletich
>>
>>> On 5/14/15, Juan Vuletich<juan at jvuletich.org>  wrote:
>>>> Hi Hannes,
>>>>
>>>> On 5/13/2015 4:54 PM, H. Hirzel wrote:
>>>>> I do not fully get you Juan.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you provide a bit more context about what you want to do with
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>        isXXX
>>>>>
>>>>> methods?
>>>>>
>>>>> HH
>>>> I just think that Object has too many methods, and has a lot of methods
>>>> that are not the business of Object at all. A clear example is
>>>> #isMethodProperties. Does Object really need to know or care about
>>>> MethodProperties?
>>>>
>>>> For the particular case of isXXX methods, in many cases they can be
>>>> replaced by a single #is: method that in Object just answers false. See
>>>> implementors in Cuis for its use.
>>>>
>>>> There are many isXXX methods still in Cuis. #isHeap is an example.
>>>>
>>>> HTH.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Juan Vuletich
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/13/15, Juan Vuletich<juan at jvuletich.org>   wrote:
>>>>>> There's always more cleanup to be done!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #isHeap is easy to remove. But #isArray might be a bit riskier. These
>>>>>> isXXX methods that simply answer a constant are extremely fast, and
>>>>>> never cause context switch. I guess this is important for #isFloat,
>>>>>> #isInteger, #isFraction, although the default that answers false
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> be defined in Number, and not Object... And I'm not really sure for
>>>>>> #isArray.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As usual, if you feel like digging into this, contributions are
>>>>>> welcome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Juan Vuletich
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/12/2015 12:18 PM, David Graham wrote:
>>>>>>> I agree with this. :)  A while back I noticed that some collections
>>>>>>> have isXXX (like isArray and isHeap), while others don't.  Is this
>>>>>>> just a matter of cleanup or is there some logic I'm missing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/10/2015 1:31 PM, Juan Vuletich wrote:
>>>>>>>> - Character>>   isCharacter
>>>>>>>> I guess we'd also need to add it to Object for this to make sense.
>>>>>>>> But we all agree that calling isXXX methods is not nice style,
>>>>>>>> right?
>>>>>>>>
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