[Cuis] Cuis Digest, Vol 41, Issue 14
Thierry Goubier
thierry.goubier at gmail.com
Mon Nov 16 22:44:52 CST 2015
Hi Juan, Euan,
thanks for the update on Morphic3. I'll have a look one of these days,
when I'll have something interesting to show running on Cuis.
Regards,
Thierry
Le 16/11/2015 21:25, Juan Vuletich a écrit :
> Hi Euan,
>
> On 11/11/2015 4:02 PM, Euan Mee wrote:
>> Thanks for the pointer to Morphic3 and its documentation. I'll try to
>> contribute more naive-user questions :-)
>>
>> What is the state of development of Morphic3?
>> - complete stable codebase?
>> - stable codebase for substantial parts, with fuurther extensions in
>> development?
>> - central aspects still under development?
>> - a design concept, coding yet to begin?
>
> I think "central aspects still under development" is a fair way to say it.
> If you want to take a look, it is in the 'Experimental' folder. Feel
> free to ask questions.
>
>> e.g. The documentation starts off with "Morphic3 *will have* scalable
>> graphics". This might mean that Morphic3 works now, but does not yet
>> have scalable graphics. Or it might just mean Morphic3 does not (yet)
>> work.
>>
>
> Well, we have been evolving Morphic in Cuis, towards the direction shown
> by some experiments I did in 2009, for quite some time. This is
> currently using BitBltCanvas to draw, that can not do proper scalable
> graphics. The Morphic3Canvas in 'Experimental' can do this.
>
>> Generally, whenever I'm looking at a new platform, system, or package,
>> I am initially looking for answers of the type
>> "Can I use it now?
>> No /
>> Yes /
>> Yes to an extent, but..."
>>
>> I'm very happy to write up aspects of the system/package as
>> fully-formed documentation, especially documentation for naive-users.
>> Please let me know if there specific places where this help is
>> already-known to be particularly needed.
>
> Morphic 3 is ready to be studied by really interested ones. Not at all
> ready for a naive- user. On the question of where this help is needed,
> I'm not the best to answer. Maybe others in the community answer this,
> or, just use the system for some project, and you'll quickly find the
> places where a new user (you!) could use better documentation.
>
>> I look forward (in the long run?) to trying Cuis and Morphic3 on
>> Raspberry Pi.
>>
>
> Well, Morphic 3 might be more expensive than BitBltCanvas, and I don't
> know if it will run reasonably well on a Pi....
>
> Cheers,
> Juan Vuletich
>
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>>> What is the current state of development of Simple Morph?
>>>
>>> Is there any documentation on how to use it, or is it allInTheCode ?
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>>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 14:13:57 +0000
>>> Euan Mee<euanmee at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What is the current state of development of Simple Morph?
>>> I am not sure what you mean by Simple Morph.
>>>
>>> Cuis has been taking steps toward Morphic3:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev/blob/master/Documentation/NotesOnMorphic.md
>>>
>>>
>>> The MorphExtension class was removed. (We have Morph Properties).
>>>
>>> Morphs have float rather than integer location coordinates.
>>>
>>> Morph location is relative to their owner, not the screen.
>>>
>>> These are relatively small changes to get used to.
>>>
>>> More radical are some of the other simplifications in the system.
>>>
>>> The best example here is probably Layout.
>>>
>>> LayoutMorphs do just that for their submorphs. A LayoutSpec is
>>> attached to individual Morphs to tell their container how they want
>>> to be layed out. See the class comments.
>>>
>>> The code in LayoutMorph is much smaller (see
>>> LayoutMorph>>layoutSubmorphsHorizontallyIn:) than corresponding
>>> layout code in Squeak or Pharo.
>>>
>>> See LayoutMorph class examples.
>>>
>>> If you git clone the Morphic-Misc1 package and load it you can get
>>> Layout editors:
>>>
>>> Open a shell and cd to the directory containing Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev
>>>
>>> git clone
>>> https://github.com/KenDickey/Cuis-Smalltalk-Morphic-Misc1.git
>>>
>>> Go to Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev, open an image and use a Workspace to
>>> require the package:
>>>
>>> Feature require: 'Morphic-Misc1'.
>>>
>>> Then use the LayoutMorph class examples, select (sub) morphs, open a
>>> LayoutMorph Editor (or a LayoutSpec Editor) and play with the settings.
>>>
>>> Note that these editors are "one-shot" and will close after setting
>>> or cancelling, so click on the "push pin" in the upper right corner
>>> to keep them open.
>>>
>>> If you have several editors open, you can use the "Show Halo" button
>>> to see which Morph an editor is adjusting.
>>>
>>>> Is there any documentation on how to use it, or is it allInTheCode ?
>>> See the above URL and continue to ask questions. We need to make the
>>> documentation better over time and questions are very helpful here.
>>>
>>> --
>>> -KenD
>>>
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