[Cuis] cuis on pda

[Jerry Bell]

Thank you Juan!

Yes, I've been pretty quiet.  All my free time has been taken up with
the new baby!

The mention of Windows CE caught my eye.  We have some Windows Mobile
5 and 6 ruggedized PDA devices here that I would like to run Smalltalk
on.   I've read a little about the old WinCE VM and I believe that it
would be possible to build a much better VM for the Windows CE 5.0
based devices.   Mainly, the memory model has changed so it should be
easier to access much larger chunks of memory than before.  Please see
the following link:

http://denniskrabbe.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/windows-mobile-heaps-from-the-large-memory-area/

I haven't decided to pursue this yet for a couple of reasons.  First,
it would involve VM level work which I'm not very comfortable with.
That's not a big deal, as I believe it would be a fun project and I'm
sure I would learn a lot.   Second, and more worrisome, Windows Mobile
5 and 6 seem to be a dead-end platform.   The new Windows Phone stuff
is completey different.   I'm not sure I want to invest a lot of time
and effort into a dead-end platform.

On the other hand, as far as I can tell, these ruggedized "enterprise
digital assistant" devices (like the Symbol / Motorola MC75) will be
using Windows Mobile for the forseeable future, so it might be worth
the effort.   For me, a lot will depend on whether the company I work
for decides to continue using the ruggedized handheld devices, or
switches to iPad or Android tablets with waterproof cases.

In the meantime, I'm interested to hear from anyone who is working on
the WinCE VM!

Jerry



On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Juan Vuletich <juan at jvuletich.org> wrote:
> Hi Jerry!
>
> I hope you're doing well. Haven't had news from you for some time...
>
> My apologies. I answered Juan's message without realizing that it was in
> foreign language for this list... Thanks!
>
> Juan Diaz said:
> People of Cuis, I need to run a Smalltalk on a PDA with WinCE 5.0. Someone
> told me Cuis could run on PDA. Any idea is welcome.
>
> And I answered:
> You need a VM for your platform. Some time ago I used one from
> http://www.is.titech.ac.jp/~ohshima/squeak/WinCE/ , the non GAPI one. These
> VMs are old, and they don't support closures. Therefore they can run Cuis
> 1.0, but not newer versions. You can also compile your own VM.
>
> Cheers,
> Juan Vuletich
>
>
> Jerry Bell wrote:
>>
>> Juan(s),
>>
>> Do you mind translating for me?
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> On Aug 14, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Juan Vuletich <juan at jvuletich.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hola Juan,
>>>
>>> Necesitas una VM para tu plataforma. Yo usé hace tiempo una de
>>> http://www.is.titech.ac.jp/~ohshima/squeak/WinCE/ , la no GAPI. Estas VMs
>>> son viejas, y no soportan closures. Así que pueden correr Cuis 1.0, pero no
>>> versiones más nuevas.
>>>
>>> Por supuesto, también podés compilar tu propia VM.
>>>
>>> Saludos,
>>> Juan Vuletich
>>>
>>> Juan wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Juan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gente de Cuis, necesito hacer correr un smalltalk en una pda con wince
>>>> vers 5.0
>>>> desearia podes usar smallltalk, me comentaron que Cuis corría o corre en
>>>> pda.
>>>> Cualquier idea sera agradecida
>>>> saludos Juan Marcelo Diaz Corte
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
>
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