[Cuis] Cypress compatibility

[Juan Vuletich]

Hi Dale,

I misunderstood what you said. Apologies.

I agree that the main purpose of Cypress for Cuis is to ease handling 
multi-dialect packages. But I don't really understand the process for 
using the Cypress format in other dialects. It seemed obvious to me that 
people should install and use https://github.com/CampSmalltalk/Cypress . 
You say is that the preferred way to use the Cypress package format from 
Pharo is via FileTree (and not Cypress), right? Does it make sense to 
maintain both FileTree and Cypress for Pharo and other (non-Cuis) 
dialects? Can you elaborate a bit on this?

For instance, is it really necessary to create a FileTree repository 
with Pharo? Can't I just save with cuis-cypress and commit/push to git? 
We are using GitHub for hosting many Cuis packages (in native pck 
format), an I guess doing that in Cypress format should be really similar.

I haven't been following this on other mail lists, I don't use other 
dialects too much, and I haven't used Monticello in the last 6 or 7 
years. I might be asking stuff that is obvious to others... Thanks for 
your patience.

Cheers,
Juan Vuletich

Dale Henrichs wrote:
> Juan,
>
> I agree completely with your sentiment about sticking with Cypress for Cuis... 
>
> I mentioned FileTree only to point out that if one is interested in porting code from Pharo to Cuis (or vice versa), you should be able to create a FileTree repository with Pharo and then load/save the code into/from Cuis (and vice versa) making it easier to share cross-dialect source code, since the source can be managed in git from both platforms...
>
> Dale
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> | From: "Juan Vuletich" <juan at jvuletich.org>
> | To: "Discussion of Cuis Smalltalk" <cuis at jvuletich.org>
> | Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 9:02:38 PM
> | Subject: Re: [Cuis] Cypress compatibility
> | 
> | Hi Dale,
> | 
> | Cuis doesn't support Monticello. I think that the best way to use a
> | VCS
> | like Git / GitHub is by having the IDE and tools be unaware about it.
> | This allows the package support in Cuis to be really simple and fast.
> | Because of this, Cypress makes a lot of sense for Cuis, but FileTree
> | not
> | so much.
> | 
> | (In any case, as usual, anybody is welcome to work on this as an
> | external package if he desires to do it).
> | 
> | Cheers,
> | Juan Vuletich
> | 
> | Dale Henrichs wrote:
> | > Juan,
> | >
> | > Very cool!
> | >
> | > If you are interested in taking things for a spin, see the FileTree
> | > project on GitHub[1] for Pharo/Squeak/GemStone installation
> | > instructions. For amber information see the Amber-Skeleton
> | > project[2].
> | >
> | > FileTree uses the Cypress disk format for a Monticello repository.
> | > Amber-Skeleton incudes a Pharo-based "file server" that
> | > reads/write Cypress disk format for Amber projects.
> | >
> | > Please report any issues on the relevant issue list for the
> | > respective projects[1][2][3] or send mail to this list.
> | >
> | > Dale
> | >
> | > [1] https://github.com/dalehenrich/filetree
> | > [2] https://github.com/dalehenrich/amber-skeleton
> | > [3] https://github.com/CampSmalltalk/cuis-cypress
> | > ----- Original Message -----
> | > | From: "Juan Vuletich" <juan at jvuletich.org>
> | > | To: cuis at jvuletich.org
> | > | Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 9:39:26 AM
> | > | Subject: [Cuis] Cypress compatibility
> | > | 
> | > | Hi Folks,
> | > | 
> | > | Cypress is a project by Dale Henrichs with the objective to
> | > | create a
> | > | cross-dialect package file format. Cypress is available for
> | > | Squeak,
> | > | Pharo, Gemstone, Amber and now Cuis. Dale himself did a
> | > | preliminary
> | > | version of Cypress for Cuis some time ago. Today I updated the
> | > | code
> | > | at
> | > | https://github.com/CampSmalltalk/cuis-cypress and it is now
> | > | working.
> | > | 
> | > | To use it, please update your Cuis image to #1307, or get an
> | > | updated
> | > | image from https://github.com/jvuletich/Cuis .
> | > | 
> | > | Cheers,
> | > | Juan Vuletich
> | > | 
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