[Cuis] Definition of Cuis parts

[Juan Vuletich]

H. Hirzel wrote:
> Hello Bernhard and Juan
>
> I like this idea. And thank you for coming up with the three groups.
> Good to see what is compatible with Squeak and what is not.
>
> Two remarks come to my mind.
>
> a) What about loading _all_ classes of Cuis into a namespace of
> Squeak? And then gradually start relying on the Squeak classes?
>
>
> or alternatively
>
>
> b) There was an earlier attempt at loading 'SimpleMorphic' into Squeak
> which was only a partial success. It did not work reliably. So the
> question is not so much on the Cuis side but more on the receiving
> side.
>
>   

I did a port of 'SimpleMorphic' for Pharo some time ago. It did work 
quite reliably. It was a technical success, but a social failure. No 
matter how much the Pharo folks talk about simplifying Morphic, you give 
it to them, and nobody adopts it.

> A simple test could be to do a very minimal morphic (e.g. Morphic0)
> which basically just displays the desktop background (with a downsized
> version of PasteUpMorph) and with a mouse click does 'go to previous
> project'.
>
> The test in Squeak from the user point of view would be menu
> 'Projects' -> 'New Morphic0 project', then Morphic0 is entered and by
> a mouse click it would be left again.
>
> Then in batches more classes might be added from Cuis to go towards
> the full Cuis Morphic. So a second step might be a Worldmenu
> (Morphic02) and a third step an emergency exit to the Morphic of
> Squeak (Morphic03). A forth might be to be able to create
> RectangleMorphs and move them around (Morphic04) and so on. I.e. not a
> mechanic loading of the Cuis part but a batch-wise copy/paste and
> versioning exercise.
>
> To summarize point b)
> I think the fact that Squeak now has name spaces does not make a big
> difference in the difficulties which arise for the integration. The
> challenge is to find a good sequence of integration steps.
>
>
> Kind regards
> --Hannes
>
>   

The other challenge is to have enough time and energy to bring such 
project to usable state.

Good luck with it!

Cheers,
Juan Vuletich

> On 1/19/13, Bernhard Pieber <bernhard at pieber.com> wrote:
>   
>> Hi Juan,
>>
>> Now that Squeak supports Environments I thought a little bit what it would
>> take to load Cuis' Morphic and STE in Squeak. The minimum would be to define
>> three logical parts of Cuis:
>> 1. Core: needed by Morphic & STE, but reasonably compatible with Squeak
>> 2. Morphic: Morphic itself, needed by Morphic & STE, but quite incompatible
>> with Squeak
>> 3. Other (Applications, Tools, System, Support, Tests): neither needed by
>> Morphic nor STE
>>
>> If we had defined these, then we would need to "just" file out the Morphic
>> part and STE and file it in in a separate Squeak environment and do some
>> fairly minimal compatibility changes, right? ;-)
>>
>> Seriously, I looked briefly at the class categories and came up with first
>> rough separation. See below. Can you have a look? Do you see any obvious
>> errors? Any categories in Core which are not needed by Morphic? Any
>> categories in Core which are needed but are not reasonably compatible with
>> Squeak? Any categories in Morphic which are optional for STE? Any categories
>> in Other which are needed by Morphic or STE?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Bernhard
>>
>> 1. Core: needed by Morphic & STE, but reasonably compatible with Squeak
>> Balloon-Collections
>> Collections-Abstract
>> Collections-Arrayed
>> Collections-Sequenceable
>> Collections-SkipLists
>> Collections-Streams
>> Collections-Support
>> Collections-Unordered
>> Collections-Weak
>> Compiler-Exceptions
>> Compiler-Kernel
>> Compiler-ParseNodes
>> Compiler-Support
>> Compiler-Syntax
>> Kernel-Chronology
>> Kernel-Classes
>> Kernel-Magnitudes
>> Kernel-Methods
>> Kernel-Numbers
>> Kernel-Objects
>> Kernel-Processes
>> Network-Kernel
>> Package Support
>> SUnit
>> SUnit-Preload
>>
>> 2. Morphic: Morphic itself, needed by Morphic & STE, but quite incompatible
>> with Squeak
>> Graphics-Display Objects
>> Graphics-Files
>> Graphics-Files-TIFF
>> Graphics-Primitives
>> Graphics-Text
>> Kernel-Text
>> Morphic-Basic
>> Morphic-Events
>> Morphic-Halos
>> Morphic-Kernel
>> Morphic-Layouts
>> Morphic-Menus
>> Morphic-Support
>> Morphic-Tests
>> Morphic-Text Support
>> Morphic-Tools
>> Morphic-Views for Models
>> Morphic-Widgets
>> Morphic-Worlds
>> Shout-Parsing
>> Shout-Styling
>> UCompletion
>> System-Exceptions Extensions
>> System-Exceptions Kernel
>> System-Files
>> System-Object Storage
>> System-Text
>> System-TextAttributes
>> Theme-Core
>> Theme-Tests
>> Theme-Themes
>>
>> 3. Other (Applications, Tools, System, Support, Tests): neither needed by
>> Morphic nor STE
>> Compiler-Tests
>> GraphicsTests-Primitives
>> Kernel-Tests
>> KernelTests-Numbers
>> KernelTests-Processes
>> LinearAlgebra
>> SUnit-UI
>> Signal Processing
>> Sound-Scores
>> Sound-Synthesis
>> System-Applications
>> System-Archives
>> System-Code Differ
>> System-Compression
>> System-Object Storage-Tests
>> System-Support
>> System-Tests
>> Taskbar-Core
>> Taskbar-Tests
>> Tests-Exceptions
>> Tests-Files
>> Tools-Browser
>> Tools-Changes
>> Tools-Debugger
>> Tools-Explorer
>> Tools-File Contents Browser
>> Tools-FileList
>> Tools-Inspector
>> Tools-Menus
>> CollectionTests
>> Tests-Bugs
>>
>>
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