[Cuis] Definition of Cuis parts

[David T. Lewis]

On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 09:38:57PM +0100, Bernhard Pieber wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> Thanks for the list of tips. See my other mail to Juan in this thread.
> 
> I wonder if it would be essential to unload Morphic from Squeak? Could CuisMorphic not just be loaded in addition?

It is not essential. But making Squeak Morphic reloadable is a good thing
to do anyway, so if I had enough time to do all the things on the list, I
would do this first, and load Cuis Morphic second. There are a number of
globals and interdependencies between Morphic and Projects in Squeak, and
my guess is that making Morphic reloadable would force a lot of this to be
cleaned up, which in turn would make it easier to load Cuis Morphic.

> 
> How difficult would it be to create a CuisMorphicProject? I see the current two subclasses MVCProject and MorphicProject have quite a few methods. How many of them are the bare minimum? Can you estimate how much effort it would take?
> 

This would be very similar to the proof of concept in "SimpleMorphic for Squeak",
which is incomplete but is good enough to show most of what needs to be done.
The code is on SqueakSource at http://www.squeaksource.com/SimpleMorphicSqueak.

It is not a small project, but it can be done.

Dave

> Cheers,
> Bernhard 
> 
> Am 22.01.2013 um 15:28 schrieb David T. Lewis:
> > On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 11:24:01PM -0300, Juan Vuletich wrote:
> >> I did a port of 'SimpleMorphic' for Pharo some time ago. It did work 
> >> quite reliably. It was a technical success, but a social failure. No 
> >> matter how much the Pharo folks talk about simplifying Morphic, you give 
> >> it to them, and nobody adopts it.
> > 
> > I did some work in Squeak to bring SimpleMorphic into Squeak as a kind
> > of Squeak Project (MVC project, Morphic project, and SMxProject). This
> > was intended as a proof of concept, and I never finished it. But clearly
> > it is possible to do this. I do not yet know anything about Environments
> > in Squeak, but it sounds to me like this might it easier to do.
> > 
> > If I had unlimited time and energy (which I do not), here is how I would
> > want to approach it from the Squeak side:
> > 
> > 1) Fix enough of the bugs in MVC to make it useable. Mainly get the
> > debugger working with ToolBuilder.
> > 
> > 2) Unload Morphic from Squeak.
> > 
> > 3) Load Cuis Morphic in Squeak and get it working.
> > 
> > 4) Make some kind of Project (CuisMorphicProject?) for projects that use the
> > Cuis Morphic.
> > 
> > 5) Figure out how to use Environments so that Squeak Morphic and Cuis
> > Morphic projects can exist in the same image, and make sure they are
> > all reloadable.
> > 
> > 6) Migrate Etoys to Cuis Morphic?
> > 
> > Dave
> 
> 
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