[Cuis] Explicit status of packages (was Re: A question on packages)

Sun Jun 29 00:19:03 CDT 2014

I love it. But I had a thought: what happens when the user of a package
isn't human? It seems like these little bits of essential information might
be very valuable to have in the image too, sort of like a "package header"
in the package file (just Smalltalk chunk code, of course.)

Maybe it's not that useful, but I think it might gel well with the package
system to ensure that useful information like this makes it into the image.
Then, I think, Ken Dickey's 'requirements' could potentially at some later
time make good use of the information (I'm thinking a dialog pops and says
something like "The package you want to install requires Cuis version X,
but you're running Cuis version X-1. Continuing may hose your image. [OK,
Hose It] [No, Abort Mission].")

Of course I can probably get better copy from the marketing department for
the button text.

Or maybe I'm over thinking things again. Thoughts?

--C

P.S. [OT NERDERY]

Anyone here play Kerbal Space Program? I'm in love. I also haven't been
productive since I got it, unless one counts designing a rocket to carry a
little green man to his nearby moon and get him back again safely as
productivity. It's great though, after playing the game for a couple of
weeks, without resorting to any kind of math, I have an intuitive grasp of
orbital mechanics, which makes me want to resort to the math next, to
deeply understand, because my rockets will be smaller and more efficient if
I can understand the science deeply. I think every little kid should have
this game. It's really effective at giving you the sense of how incredibly
vast the solar system is (much less the universe!) and how very small our
Pale Blue Dot really is.

P.P.S.

We really should put Cuis in space if we can. I bet we can...

On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Juan Vuletich <juan at jvuletich.org> wrote:

>  Hi Germán,
>
>
> On 6/28/2014 11:37 AM, Germán Arduino wrote:
>
> Hi Juan:
>
>  I would try to make something for all my packages but the main problem
> that I can see is that for lines as:
>
>  Status: Currently maintained, as of 28-June-2014
> Latest Cuis known to work with: #1923
>
>  they'll be outdated quickly.
>
>
> Of course. That's why it is most important to set the "last good" date and
> Cuis update number. The point is to make users of the package really aware
> of how out of date the package is!
>
>
>
>  Aida in particular, should be at 6.6 level, the main loading problems in
> 6.5 are related with big methods containing javascript stuff (as JQuery and
> others).
>
>  At the point where I'm in the port lot of this problems do not exist
> anymore because big changes in Aida.
>
>  As I've said before, I should find the time (or the sponsor!!) to end
> the port.
>
>  Cheers.
>
>
> Sure. But looking like updated, and being obsolete is the _worst_ possible
> scenario. We all would like to be able to work on our projects at will. But
> in reality, stuff gets obsolete over time. So let people know easily about
> that.
>
> Cheers,
> Juan Vuletich
>
>
>
>
>
>  2014-06-28 10:29 GMT-03:00 Juan Vuletich <juan at jvuletich.org>:
>
>>  Hi Folks,
>>
>> I think all packages hosted outside the main Cuis repo should include,
>> near the top of the README.md file something like:
>>
>> Status: Currently maintained, as of 28-June-2014
>> Latest Cuis known to work with: #1923
>> Required packages:
>>     SomePackageName.pck.st, from www.github.com/UserName/RepoName
>>
>> etc.
>>
>> Possible status could be
>> 'Currently maintained'
>> 'In development (not usable yet)'
>> 'Abandoned (adopt it if you want, the community will help you)'
>> etc.
>>
>> Germán, can you do something like this for Aida?
>>
>> Folks, can you do something like this for your packages?
>>
>> Or, correct, augment, discuss, etc :)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Juan Vuletich
>>
>> On 6/27/2014 8:17 PM, Germán Arduino wrote:
>>
>> Yes Ken, I agree.
>>
>>  I would try to update the doc, but I will abandon the port of Aida (for
>> now), seems that do not exist interest in the community and I really do not
>> have the needed free time.
>>
>>  Cheers.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-06-27 20:03 GMT-03:00 Ken Dickey <Ken.Dickey at whidbey.com>:
>>
>>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 19:21:30 -0300
>>> Germán Arduino <garduino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> ..
>>> > The error with the prereq Cuis-Network-MIME is because you need also
>>> clone
>>> > (better than download the master branch) the repo where this package
>>> is.
>>>
>>>  Germán,
>>>
>>> It would be helpful for each of us to point out the required non-core
>>> packages in the README.md file.
>>>
>>> Easy to forget this.
>>>
>>>
>>> -KenD
>>>
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>>
>>
>>  --
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>> Germán Arduino
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