[Cuis] Xtreams , Ometa and related

[Phil (list)]

On Mon, 2015-05-25 at 09:59 -0300, Juan Vuletich wrote:
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> On 5/23/2015 7:29 AM, Casey Ransberger wrote:
> > Below
> >
> >> On May 20, 2015, at 9:11 AM, Juan Vuletich<juan at jvuletich.org>  wrote:
> >>
> >> Minimalism should be to empower us, not to impair us. Removing this was a mistake.
> > I *really* like this statement. I've moved into a new home, and basically everything about it follows this kind of thinking. I really enjoy large, open spaces. Cuis gave me that in a Smalltalk. Just very little clutter.
> >
> > But when I look around at my space, I see objects of utility. There is a guitar that I use to make music. A bed that I sleep on. A computer that does all kinds of things for me. One light. A piece of luggage full of clothes. A record player and two plastic crates full of records. A device that imitates many of the video game systems I loved as a child, and some cartridges for it. A good bowler hat. Some dusty books.
> >
> > Letting go of any of these things could be really crippling. When pursuing a minimal/ascetic lifestyle (and let's just admit it, Smalltalk is almost a lifestyle, or rather a continuum of lifestyles) it's risky to give things up. The closer you get to "only what you absolutely need" the more risky it is to give away your guitar.
> 
> Yes!
> 
> > I think that compiler indirection is *immensely* useful, because it lets us play with language. Even if all you're doing is a really funny pun, no one would get to have that laugh if it wasn't painless to drop in a new compiler.
> >
> > Thinking of Andreas Raab's Smalltalk port of the Python thing that let you code in Broheim or Valley Girl. He did it in like seriously OMG Becky, several lines of code.
> 
> Oh, please explain this. Looks like there is something below all that 
> slang :)
> 

'Valley Girl' and, I believe 'Broheim', are essentially linguistic
caricatures of of inane American cultural stereotypes.  I warn you the
links that follow will waste 4 minutes of your life...

Some examples of English to Valley Girl translation (not a great
example, but you get the idea):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81IZDhXeJBk

How to speak Valley Girl (a more general explanation):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL6XBB-umc0

Now, like, totally imagine programming in such a grody to the max
language... gag me with a spoon!

> > As a clean platform, Cuis is very attractive to me (a guy who likes playing with language) and we've had a port of PetitParser for some time. Sounds like we have OMeta working now too, and I'm overjoyed about that.
> >
> > Compiler indirection gives people who like to play with language a really easy way to drop in a new language without destabilizing the rest of the system. For this reason, I'd like to express my support for restoring indirection to our little Zen garden.
> >
> > --C
> 
> Thanks Casey.
> Juan Vuletich
> 
> Ps. Get well soon!
> 
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